By Marissa G. Muller

What’s the biggest problem with American culture? If you’re Tom Petty, your answer would be the Kardashians.

In an interview with UK tabloid The Sun, the legendary musician said the reality TV star family is to blame for America’s obsession with celebrity and conspicuous consumption.

Petty recalled the simpler times he grew up in, before the onset of reality TV.

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“I’m old enough to have lived in a country where, if you were willing to work hard, you could have a fairly nice life,” he said. “You could support a family and even get a shot at owning your home, but you never thought you’d get a swimming pool. Now the culture has hypnotized people into thinking they’re really nothing if they’re not wealthy and a Kardashian.”

Read more about Tom Petty’s views on the Kardashians on Radio.com

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